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You're right, he does have a prescription...it's just one that doesn't work in practice despite being tried over and over again for more than a century at this point.
Sure seems like this country at least gets a say in voting for who runs it, unlike many, many socialist examples (with great reading scores! yay!) where they are not only not doing that, but it is prohibited structurally (or behind the scenes through radioactive tea administration).
Also, don't bend my ear with all the grand achievements of socialist countries that are decidedly not democratic and then pay lip service to democracy.
It does and has worked. What do you believe is sufficient to decide if something does or does not work?
Socialist countries do in fact have elections, voting, and so forth.
Why not? Why do you say Socialist countries aren't democratic?
What countries are you counting?
The former USSR, China, Cuba, North Korea, and on and on do not hold elections.
The northern European (and other socialist-lite countries) that are closer to what I would want for America didn't abolish capitalism... So...
The USSR, PRC, Cuba, and DPRK all hold elections and practice(ed) some form of democracy.
They were not structured like Capitalist elections, but nonetheless had and have elections.
Social Democracy depends on Imperialism and Capitalism in the global north, is inherently unsustainable, and sees sliding of worker protections and rights over time, just like what happened following the New Deal in America. Reading theory makes it clear why.
Lol, alrighty we're done here. 😆
Edit: The only time tankies believe in voting is when they're on lemmy hitting the downvote icon on the deep posts. 😜
Not even checking the links? It's wikipedia, lol
They're sham elections. You telling me that fucking haircut in the DPRK is God emperor of North Korea because he has some mandate from the masses? He's atop the throne because he's the son of the last blowhard.
Lmao
George W. Bush was elected.
When's the last time haircut doofus had an actual election that he didn't somehow manage 106% of the vote in?
2019, I believe. Wikipedia has the results.
He's not even pretending anymore because he knows he's God Emperor for life.
You do realize you've moved the goal posts over time, right? Flawed democracy is still democracy, and if you're going to pretend it isn't then we have to agree that the US isn't a democracy either.
Not voting at all for your leadership isn't democracy.
It has nothing to do with flaws, of course countries have flaws.
If Trump manages to turn the country into full on dictatorship I'd acknowledge that as what it is, instead of pretending that it's a flourishing democracy.
Besides all of this, China hasn't even gotten rid of capitalism anyway. So they're not only a dictatorship but they're also practically a fascist one with worker aesthetics.
Half of the shit we buy in America is made in China by wage slaves who cannot advocate for themselves under threat of being carried off to jail or executed.
They do, though.
China has elections, so not sure why you're calling "fascist," it's closer to a Social Democracy.
Mind finding some sources of this happening?
All in all, you're deeply goofy. It's like you believe everything the US state department says.
Try watching a video of two guys going to North Korea to get a haircut.
Nah I'm good on pyong yang propaganda. You're fucking goofy. Touch grass you dumb bootlicker.
Yes, pyongyang propaganda from a pair of aussies touching grass.
I think you need to take your own advice and stop watching Joe Rogan.
I'm out touching grass right now and Joe Rogan can eat a dick along with your favorites fucking pooh bear and the tiny penis moron who looks like he accidentally walked into a hedge cutter.
Also Australia sucks y'all are a bunch of American wannabes.
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Homophobia, racism, ableism, and more racism, lmao.
Guess Joe Rogan is too progressive for you, maybe Ben Shapiro or Nick Fuentes is more your speed?
Not even Australian myself lol