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Pretty much the question. I heard about Usenet a while back but never managed to wrap my head around it.

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[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 12 points 7 months ago

Bravo! Outstanding explanation. I got lost on like the second sentence though. If you have the time, can you also ELI5

dial into with a modem

It's a common enough expression but what does it even mean?

[-] RiderExMachina@lemmy.ml 24 points 7 months ago

This is it. This is the comment that makes me realize that I'm old.

[-] some_guy@lemmy.sdf.org 10 points 7 months ago

Wow, this caught me off guard. I read an article about kids being given old tech and they knew people waved Polaroids (even though it doesn’t enhance development) from pop culture. Are young people really unaware that we used to dial with a modem to connect to the net?

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 6 points 7 months ago

No I meant do analog modems use tones to transmit information, or how does it work?

Like what is the process of "dial with a modem to connect to the net".

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 11 points 7 months ago

Modem is short for modulator/demodulator. It took a data stream and encoded it onto tones, multiple (audible) frequencies were used to increase data rates. You had to dial in to either a server, another computer, or an ISP. If you picked up the phone you would hear what sounded like white noise.

I lost many a download, or 'online' game to my mother picking up the phone to make a phone call.

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 4 points 7 months ago

That's very clear, thanks. I remember reading about the original phreakers, one guy had perfect pitch so he could just sing the tone to open a long distance line and then dial away. I think he got sued by one of the American phone companies for stealing.

[-] cynar@lemmy.world 5 points 7 months ago

There are some amazing stories about the cat and mouse games regarding phone phreaking. The "captain crunch whistle" is great. All their attempts at security, beaten by a bit of audible brute force, via a cereal box toy.

[-] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 7 points 7 months ago

Think of it like a "fast", automated telegraph that speaks in audible binary instead of Morse code.

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 3 points 7 months ago

audible binary

Thanks yea, that's exactly what I was wondering.

[-] Fuck_u_spez_@sh.itjust.works 2 points 7 months ago

It might actually be hexadecimal or some other encoding but you get the point.

[-] AngryCommieKender@lemmy.world 9 points 7 months ago

Watch Wargames. The main character uses the Ethernet somewhat realistically compared to more modern "depictions" of "hackers," and has to use an absolutely ancient modem to connect to the network.

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 5 points 7 months ago

Omg "a 1983 American techno-thriller film"... sounds awesome B-)

[-] sangriaferret@sh.itjust.works 4 points 7 months ago

And probably more relevant today than it was back then.

[-] tigerjerusalem@lemmy.world 7 points 7 months ago* (last edited 7 months ago)

That I can help. Back in the day, to access someone’s else computer you literally hooked up yours to a phone line. Your desktop would then dial to some number you got that had another computer listening to answer, and they would start a “conversation”. Your computer sent what to us would sound like noise, the receiving computer would listen to that noise and answer back. Voilá, you’re connected to a network!

This is how it sounded like

And here’s an explanation about what’s happening.

[-] bartolomeo@suppo.fi 4 points 7 months ago

It's binary with low tones representing 0 and high tones representing 1. Thanks for the link, that's just what I wanted to know!

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