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Issue with sort by hot (kbin.social)

submitted 2 years ago by ThatOneKirbyMain2568@kbin.social to c/kbinMeta@kbin.social

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This has been an issue since the beginning of Kbin tmk, but when you make a post, it won't appear under sort by hot unless it has an upvote. This means that if someone forgets to upvote their own post, it just won't appear on the default sort. There are plenty of posts I've missed because of this.

Any idea when something like this might be changed?

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[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 3 points 2 years ago (4 children)

how can it be hot if it has zero upvotes? seems pretty not-hot to me

[–] ThatOneKirbyMain2568@kbin.social 5 points 2 years ago (3 children)

Given that we're so small at the moment, why should a post need an upvote to be at all visible on the default sort? It can the only post of the past two weeks, but if there's no upvote, it doesn't get seen. It's very impractical.

And even if we go with this logic, why should the criterion for a post being seen be whether OP remembers to upvote their own post? It doesn't make sense. If you think that posts should only be seen if someone opts to go through new and give it an upvote (because otherwise it's not a "hot" post), OP shouldn't be able to do that.

Right now, we have a system where a major factor in post visibility is, "Did OP remember to click the upvote button?" It's just not beneficial.

[–] originalucifer@moist.catsweat.com 2 points 2 years ago (1 children)

i agree, i think your argument is 'why arent my own posts automatically liked by me'

call me a pedant but it hurts me to hear a category labeled hot, that has not had literally any user related activity. those 2 things are incompatible. just swap hot for new and call it day

hot to me is an 'activity over time' metric, and zero doesnt play nice

[–] ThatOneKirbyMain2568@kbin.social 1 points 2 years ago

Yeah, having posts automatically upvoted by OP would be great. I think that Lemmy automatically starts with an upvote count of 1 regardless of OP's vote, so I think Kbin should do the same. I get that Hot is meant to factor in activity and time, but it just feels super off for the only post in the past month to not appear. Surely a post that was made an hour ago is hotter than a post was made weeks back.

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