this post was submitted on 07 Jun 2026
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A Boring Dystopia
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The world we live in isn't just dystopic, it isn't just stupid, trying to describe all the ways it sucks just makes for a really boring story.
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Oh come on with this "minimizing political content" nonsense, y'all are a science community and science is being hunted down and destroyed systematically and your response is to try to become less political?
Are you just giving up then?
Or is this place run by scientists foolish enough to be politically conservative and they are being snowflakes about having to hear challenging opinions?
Science is political.
I did not decide it was so, those who want to destroy science did.
The instance has had this policy for over 4 years. The sidebar reads:
The goal when creating this instance was to a place to discuss about scientific discoveries, post pictures of nature, and have a set of communities for this while avoiding polarizing content. If someone wants to discuss politics they can click on 'All' and go right to it. The scope is explicitly anti-politics because I do not want to moderate a politically charged or polarizing environment, and I know that many people with interests like mine will also appreciate such a space existing because they see enough pictures of Donald Trump and polarizing discussions elsewhere.
I do not disagree with you broadly, and that is to an extent why I use common sense and do not enforce the "no politics" rule religiously. There is quite a bit politics that gets through. Although I do prefer to offer users of this instance a politics free experience, if no one complains I usually let it go.
In this case: I have noticed posts in the front page that have nothing to do with science lately, and they came from this specific community. I then saw some US politics characters attached to articles that had nothing to do with science. I looked through the community and most of it is off-topic, so it makes more sense to lock the community.
I'm sorry this upsets you, I should have removed the community as soon as it was created, but I did not realize what it was.
I'm with this instance for as long as you keep it running. I think you take a good approach.
I think it's fine to give communities a chance. If it was moderated I might even advocate giving the community a warning. There are ways this community could have been both science and politics even with the boring dystopia theme - a tough intersection, but we have other niche communities. The way submitters didn't played by the rules, and no one was putting an effort into moderating it, so it's left mander's scope. I like that you generally take a lenient approach -- I think that's important for building communities. It's also important to have and enforce some structure that actually maintains the larger community of the instance.
I think you handled it well.
Thanks!
It is not that the submitters did not play by the rules. The 'rules' of the instance set the scope of the kind of communities that belong here, but I would not expect users from other instances to be aware of these rules. So, it was a mistake on my end not on any poster's. It would have been better to react sooner, but better now than later.
From the name my impression was that the community was about more aligned with futuristic sci-fi, which would be a bit on the edge of the scope but acceptable.
We aren't the ones that made science politically charged or polarizing, the coordinated global movement of rightwing extremists did.
What are you going to do when conservatives force science further into the realm of politics? Stay silent about it here until all the science funding is cut and climate change discussion is barred from public discourse?
https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC11229655/
You can have a look at some communities that often have content where science intersects politics:
https://mander.xyz/c/academia https://mander.xyz/c/earthscience https://mander.xyz/c/publichealth
Minimizing politics does not strictly mean being extreme about enforcing the no-politics rule. Posts that are about the interaction between politics and science generally contain enough overlap with science that it is acceptable. But that is not the case in this community, it is mostly general topics and politics.
This is an unsustainable moderation policy and philosophy for a community ostensibly about promoting science and scientific discussion.
If anything a hazy acceptance of sommeeeee political content is worse than an attempt at not allowing any at all, which is also not a sustainable moderation policy for a community centered on science.
I don't think you understand, you either fight this head on or you accept that you have lost and science will continue to be dismantled globally and you seem to be stuck in the middle thinking there is another option.
What do you mean exactly by that?
What do you mean by "tribal"? Why are you using "tribal" in a derogatory fashion?
Do you think I am passionate about politics because I see this like sports teams and I am just really passionate about my team winning?
Pretty much, yeah.
It is difficult for me to comprehend loving science and betraying it by artificially blinding yourself to the reality that science is political and is under existential threat from coordinated, intentional actions by rightwing movements all over the world, but then again people betray the people and things they love all the time I guess.
This mindset is exactly the kind of toothless reaction that the people politicizing science in the first place are counting on, congratulations.
You are equating why I am passionate about politics and science as essentially the same motivations as people who are explicitly bigoted and anti--intellectual which even if you were right, which you are not, misses a very important difference between me and those people you are intepreting I am having mud slinging fights with because it is fun.
I am not bigoted and hostile at a fundamental level to science like the people I am trying to point out are who are actively lighting everything on fire.
You don't seem to comprehend you are playing an essential part in the ratchet mechanism here.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ratchet_effect
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https://issues.org/new-politics-science-mills-st-clair/