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A rate of 0.2, 0.1 under the world average of 0.3 (down near India despite being far more developed and with far less poverty) so wrong. Also going by absolute numbers (despite this being idiotic given China's population) still half of America despite being 4 times as populous. Have you considered investigating before speaking and embarrassing yourself. Also this is largely irrelevant to the fact that billionaires hold no politics power in China.
Chauvinist idiot.
My reaction is completely normal of someone from China being told how my government is secretly suppressing me in ways they absolutely are not by an arrogant chauvinist with no real understanding of the situation on the ground. And I didn't touch on the DPRK as despite it being a massive exaggeration to the point of effectively being a lie I understand for most white people nothing I say about it will ever invite a real reconsideration and proper investigation as the truth of the Kim family having outsized influence at current (despite it declining with each generation) is enough for them to dismiss all of the context and surrounding information.
I understand that the American government is full of lies and paints those it has labeled "enemy" in a web of falsehoods, but your calling a dynasty of inherited emperors "outsized influence" is worse than if I hand waved Elon musk as "outsized influence". And the violent suppression of viewpoints in China is well verified.
America is a capitalist hellscape. I don't disagree. You can't "whatabout" it to escape China and DPRK doing some heinous shit. No matter what horrible shit America does it doesn't change the truth of what I said.
You can pretend I support it in some way and am an easy to attack white person who just toes the party line because I benefit from the system. But none of that is true.
I didn't say anything about America what the fuck are you talking about?
Yes please continue to double down and lecture me about my country with your understanding straight from the yellow peril handbook.
On the DPRK you really just did the thing I knew you would, no recognition of how the situation imposed on the DPRK has shaped it's political landscape, no recognition of the fact that with each generation the Kim family distributes power for example, the position of President, held by Kim Il-Sung, was abolished and split into multiple positions upon his death, nothing but hearsay nonsense you've osmosised and regurgitate with unearned arrogance.
So you're admitting I'm right you just osmosised a load of nonsense and now take yourself to be an expert. It makes sense given the very first thing you said was a complete lie said with total confidence. Very impressive truly an intellectual titan.
It's so trumpian for me to point out you started this conversation with a lie and then admitted you haven't studied what you're talking about because "it is known". You are a joke.
Doubles down on being a chauvinist idiot lecturing a Chinese person about reality in China, nice
The only arguments I've ever heard in response to the free speech problem, and continue to hear from you, is "bbbbut America worse" or "you are a dumb American". I never said "but Chinese are stupid" or "fucking tankie loyalist", but if I did, that'd tell you a lot about my viewpoints. Just like it does yours when you reduce me to some kind of American cheerleader, even against my direct statements to the contrary.