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Australia | Teenagers sue over social media ban for ‘violating their right to communicate’
(www.independent.co.uk)
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How is a social media ban a surveillance measure? It literally makes it much harder to monitor what people do
So the government mandating ID checks on the must popular websites makes it harder to monitor people? You're going to have to explain that one to me.
Imagine if you couldn't enter certain public spaces without providing ID, because otherwise unsupervised kids might get in there, then imagine the records of who had been in that places was stored in some random spot online with only loose platitudes that the government expects companies to try really hard not to leak that data. Would you then feel that this was a safe place?
Also because the kids are smarter and more motivated than the government gives them credit, they start using work arounds to access that place, so the main way to get penalised and potentially have your identity stolen is to engage with this pointless and flawed system in good faith.
This is a debacle on an epic scale, they could instead be putting in place some real legal consequences for companies that facilitate or engage in abuse. We know for example that Facebook has experimented on manipulating algorithmic results of teenaged girls to make them better consumers by heightening body image issues. Round up the Australian Meta executive team and throw then in jail for a decade or two when that sort of shit comes out. When a data leak takes place extradite the CEO and give him a day of jail for every user that was put in jeopardy, it'll only take a couple of CEOs sing jailed for multiple centuries before data security becomes a top focus in every company.
No instead let's institute a poorly thought out ban on a non voting block, to disguise the first steps in establishing the framework of the actual surveillance state we are working up to.
You mean those social networks full of your pictures, coupled with your profile info such as name and maybe date of birth? Sure bud
Yeah I mean the one good thing we can agree on about social media is that it's a perfect record, no one lies and all the information uploaded to it is so truthful that you can basically treat it as a complete record. Imagine, if the opposite were true, people could engage with social media without having to provide any information they didn't want to. Not even going to get in to the pros and cons of this. But it all comes down to penalising those who engage in good faith. Don't forget, we have a wildly impractical law om the book that allows our government to compel any citizen who works for one of these large companies to install back doors into the system with a potential stay at a Federal prison for any objection or disclosure. The groundwork has been getting laid for a long time on this project.