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[–] Alcoholicorn@mander.xyz -5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I meant the proposal in 2022, which was similar to the current one, except a million more Ukrainians and Russians would still be alive.

thinly veiled temporary ceasefire that would have left Ukraine de-armed and Russia free to re-arm

Well yeah, did you expect Russia to disarm? If you wanted bilateral disarmament similar to START, it would have to be between NATO and Russia, not Russia and one of America's puppets.

[–] MentalEdge@sopuli.xyz 1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 23 hours ago) (1 children)

except a million more Ukrainians and Russians would still be alive.

Maybe. I don't think you can say that for sure. Maybe in that timeline, that peace would have come and gone by now.

Well yeah, did you expect Russia to disarm?

No. I expect both sides to remain armed to the teeth, perhaps even growing their capabilities for years after a peace-deal.

My country neighbours Russia, and unlike some neughbours, we never disarmed. That doesn't mean we're out to expand our territories. It is just the reality of being neighbours with Russia, even then for a while there our military expenditure felt like a waste even to me.

Not anymore.

The only security you can have with men like Putin, is to make taking something from you as expensive as possible.

America's puppets.

That's a bit of a oversimplification. The only puppet the US could accurately control right now, is a sock pulled onto one of Trumps hands.

Any apprently positive outcome is accidental, and even then half of it is fixing problems they're themselves causing.

Trump himself is so empty, that anything he has to say that isn't coming from his ego, is just him parroting the latest person to gift him an airplane.

[–] TehPers@beehaw.org 2 points 21 hours ago

The only puppet the US could accurately control right now, is a sock pulled onto one of Trumps hands.

Can confirm. Give him a million bucks, hell just say his makeup looks good one day, and you get a free pass to break any single law you want.

Hard to say anyone's the US's puppet, though the irony of using a puppet to control a puppet is pretty strong.