They are very obviously losing right now. Ukraine is suffering from a critical manpower shortage, the west is not able to provide them with weapons, the economic situation in Ukraine is unravelling, and there's a huge political scandal.

Meanwhile, the news from Russia for the past three years has absolutely not been that. Even Ukrainian media admits that https://kyivindependent.com/bloomberg-thousands-of-russians-return-home-boosting-war-economy

I guess UK regime propaganda is still trying to pretend otherwise though. Given that Russia isn't gang pressing people into service it's not clear what basis the Brits have for their bombastic claims.

The reality is that Russian economy is stable and growing, it's able to outproduce the west militarily, and its trade is now oriented towards BRICS. Given the stark difference between Russia and Ukraine in terms of available manpower, resources, and economy, it's pretty clear to anybody who can do grade school math that Russia is going to win the war.

[+] kindred@lemmy.dbzer0.com -7 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (34 children)

Given that Russia isn't gang pressing people into service

I wouldn't take that as "given".

And with the new law, draftees are immediately banned from leaving the country.

Those who fail to show up at a recruitment office promptly will soon face a raft of new restrictions related to banking, selling property and even gaining access to a driver's license.

Already before the reform, people who refused orders to serve in the military have faced a possible prison sentence of up to 10 years. (NPR)

As part of their efforts to combat draft evasion, authorities earlier this year launched an electronic register of conscripts to serve online summonses in some Russian regions. They also introduced a series of legal restrictions for those who ignore the summonses, including banning their bank transactions, suspending their driver’s licenses and blocking foreign travel. (AP)

I quoted the NPR and AP articles, since you seem allergic to reporting from the UK.

[–] LeeeroooyJeeenkiiins@hexbear.net 12 points 2 days ago (6 children)

As part of their efforts to combat draft evasion, authorities earlier this year launched an electronic register of conscripts to serve online summonses in some Russian regions. They also introduced a series of legal restrictions for those who ignore the summonses, including banning their bank transactions, suspending their driver’s licenses and blocking foreign travel. (AP)

dude I've been reading about the ukrainians running kidnapping squads grabbing kids off the streets for like two years straight but uh yeah sure it's russia having manpower issues

[–] kindred@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Whether or not Ukraine has kidnapping squads doesn't mean Russia can't also be having manpower issues.

Both can be true at the same time.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You can't cite Russian conscription as evidence that Russia is losing and then say that Ukraine also using conscription doesn't matter

[–] kindred@lemmy.dbzer0.com -5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I didn't say either of those things you're saying.

This is what I said :

I'm sure Ukraine is in a similar position, but it doesn't sound like a clearcut win for Russia, either.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

If it's mirrored on both sides, then why the fuck would you bring it up as a reason to think Ukraine isn't losing?

What you're doing is actually moving the goal posts, by the way

[–] kindred@lemmy.dbzer0.com -4 points 2 days ago (1 children)

why the fuck would you bring it up as a reason to think Ukraine isn't losing?

I was bringing it up as a reason to think the case for Russia winning wasn't a clear slam dunk.

Resorting to conscription to fill your ranks is not something you do when you're "obviously winning".

And before you make a claim about Ukraine resorting to conscription, too, at no point have I claimed Ukraine was "obviously winning" either.

[–] BrainInABox@lemmy.ml 8 points 2 days ago

Why is that a reason, if that particular factor is a wash for both sides?

Resorting to conscription to fill your ranks is not something you do when you’re “obviously winning”.

Uhuh. So when the Soviets were flattening Berlin they weren't obviously winning? When the US had sunken the entire Japanese Navy and were systemically saturation bombing the Japanese mainland, they weren't obviously winning?

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