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[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 12 points 2 days ago (2 children)

Learn a little history.

Vonnegut came out of a time when having a gay kid was one of the worst things a parent could imagine. "I'd rather have a daughter who was a whore than a son who was gay" was a common expression.

He could have just as easily wrote 'bank robber' but saying 'gay' made the line much edgier.

[–] frunch@lemmy.world 6 points 2 days ago (1 children)

Go figure the context is important

¯\_(ツ)_/¯

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 5 points 2 days ago (2 children)

It's really funny when you read books from back in the day when 'gay' meant 'rowdy.'

"The cowboys rode into town, got drunk and got gay with the citizens."

That line can have two wildly different meanings.

[–] snooggums@piefed.world 3 points 2 days ago (1 children)

When you're with the Flintstones Have a yabba-dabba-doo time A dabba-doo time We'll have a gay old time

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 2 points 2 days ago

I always thought that Barney walked a little funny...

[–] tetris11@feddit.uk 1 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago)

Brokeback Mountain was just about two rough and rowdy cowpokes. Nothing to see here

[–] Pencilnoob@lemmy.world 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

I am well aware of said history. That's why I wrote what I wrote

[–] DagwoodIII@piefed.social 1 points 2 days ago

I think it's much, much more likely that a closeted gay man of the time would studiously avoid all mentions of homosexuality in any context.