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How can we piss off Alan Moore?
I know!
Sure, but just by mentioning his name he's probably pissed off. He's written some AMAZING stories, but he's grumpy at everything.
He's also written some deeply fucked up shit...
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Illuminations_(short_story_collection)
Maybe it got better after the story where the 5 year old is sold into sex slavery and has a hemispherectomy to make her more compliant, but I won't know...
That's fair. Maybe even story wise that's a great story, but I agree I don't think I want to know. But I'm not looking to call out the stories I don't find amazing.
It's fiction. As you described it, it may, horrible as it is, be based on truth. I don't know and I don't want to know.
I'm not here to champion all of his work. I just know that he's written some excellent stories and I choose to believe those stories are fictional.
Lol, a Smiling Friends reference for Alan Moore? Love it.
Alan Moore is such a grumpy old fuck but I feel like at this point they just enjoy poking the man.
I say this as someone who’s loved Alan Moore since I was a teen.
He kinda went off the rails over the whole "Before Watchmen" stuff. Basically saying DC has been riding his coat tails for years and shouldn't be using "his" characters.
And I'm like...
First off, the Watchmen characters are 2nd and 3rd generation knock offs of the Charlton characters he was told he couldn't use.
Second, nobody else should play with "your" characters?
I guess we better let Mick Anglo (Marvelman) know. Ditto Len Wein and Bernie Wrightson (Swamp Thing), or all the other public domain creators he failed to credit for the America's Best stuff. I'm sure L. Frank Baum, J. M. Barrie and Lewis Carroll will be thrilled at the porn take on their characters.
IIRC, he had an informal deal with DC where they’d let the books go out of print and the copyright revert to him. So every adaptation is kind of like the 90s Roger Corman Fantastic 4, where a big part of the reason for it existing is so that the studio can keep the copyright.
He did a porn take on Lewis Carroll characters?
But yeah dude is unhinged so say the least.
Lost Girls. Alice, Dorothy, and Wendy swapping sex stories while snowed in at a hotel.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lost_Girls_(graphic_novel)
Wow. That synopsis seems problematic. Why do some artists insist on injecting child sexuality themes into their art? Garth Nix, Stephen King, Alan Moore, tons of rockstars (although we know why with those guys), can it really just be that they’re all secretly pedophiles and just super bad at hiding it?
What's hilarious is that the critics were trying to dance around it calling it "Art" and "Literature" and Moore was adamant: "No, it's porn."
Yeah I saw that. Hilarious. Whatever you tell them it is they will say it’s the opposites. Art critic is a bullshit job.
In fairness, Lewis Carroll and J.M. Barrie were also pretty problematic in their own ways. Not sure about Baum.
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/arts-culture/lewis-carrolls-shifting-reputation-9432378/
https://www.casemateipm.com/blog/2025/01/03/the-complex-life-of-j-m-barrie-author-of-peter-pan/
Turns out Baum was also problematic, just "not that way!"
https://www.npr.org/sections/thetwo-way/2010/10/27/130862391/l-frank-baum-advocated-extermination-of-native-americans
Oh I know they were. Lewis Carroll was almost certainly a pedophile himself wasn’t he?
Like that doesn’t make this okay thought.
Carroll and Barrie both had problematic relationships with children.