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[–] xxce2AAb@feddit.dk 141 points 2 days ago (31 children)

These shitheads. They only had to do nothing, and they managed to fail at it.

[–] Voroxpete@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (30 children)

After reading more about the deal, it's actually starting to look pretty smart.

They're only funding the government until January.

So all the stuff where the Republicans have to bring votes by December isn't a punt, because the Dems are keeping a loaded gun on the table. If the GOP fail to uphold their side of the deal, they can just shut the government down again, right away, with a clear and obvious justification.

The reality is, actually getting these ACA subsidies extended was never likely to happen. It has to go through a GOP controlled house, and Trump. But by holding out for an agreement to actually put it to a vote, the Dems have put the issue squarely on the GOP. They're gonna force them to either shoot down their package in the Senate, shoot it down in the House, or have Trump veto it. It'll fail in one of those ways, mark my words, not it'll fail in a way that is very obviously the GOP choosing not to stand up for regular Americans. And by extending the issue with the shutdown there's been enough time for people to start seeing the 2026 rates and really getting a picture of how this is going to hurt.

I think this is a solid win. The subsidies were always doomed, and I don't think actually extending them was ever the objective. I think the point was to force the GOP to kill them in a very public and obvious way where its clear who is holding the knife. This deal achieves that.

Edit: Strike the above. After understanding some more of the details, it's not looking nearly as smart as I'd first assumed. Leaving the original up to not ruin the continuity of the thread.

[–] Novamdomum@fedia.io 1 points 2 days ago (1 children)

You know... if I was a Russian disinfo gremlin desperate for something to pivot to after the whole "The name is Mamdani" spanking they just got I'd probably also be trying to amplify the whole "The Dems are cowards" messaging. Problem is that, thanks to years of their machinations, more people are actually checking sources and reading details now. Good.

[–] homesweethomeMrL@lemmy.world 2 points 2 days ago

Some of us have been watching for longer than that even.

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