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[–] Wildmimic@anarchist.nexus -1 points 6 days ago (1 children)

It's not an excuse, it's what is expected of them, and what is drilled into their brains through multiple channels while growing up, cranked up to 11 the moment the military gets their hands on them - and they get the majority of the population in their hands. Refusing to serve on conscientious grounds has only a 10% chance of being exempted. So yeah, the chance that those who kill themselves didn't want to serve is pretty high.

Even those who refuse and are lucky to get an exemption pay a heavy price, with their job prospects shot to hell and their standing in society reduced to traitor. Not even the left wing in Israel supports them.

Israel's military, state and how they are interwoven is not comparable to anything else i have ever heard of in my life. In most of the world you can either not enlist or it has no real repercussions on your civilian life if you refuse to serve (in my country you are not allowed to get a gun license for - i think it's 25 years? - if you refuse to serve and have to do a 3 months longer civil service instead)

[–] PM_ME_VINTAGE_30S@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 6 days ago

Even those who refuse and are lucky to get an exemption pay a heavy price, with their job prospects shot to hell and their standing in society reduced to traitor. Not even the left wing in Israel supports them.

Unironically yes, taking the L and tanking the consequences is the only moral thing to do in that situation holy shit. If it's serve in the IDF or {insert consequence here}, you take {insert consequence here}. It's literally that simple 🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦🤦