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[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 10 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Yeah he just needs to be careful, what Trump and Co were doing having discussions appoint U.S. policy/international relations with countries like Israel before taking office is a criminal offense. He needs to make sure he doesn't say anything that could be misinterpreted as a representation of the U.S. because this administration is very much rules for thee, and not for me.

[–] tal@lemmy.today 7 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

I assume you're referring to the Logan Act:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Logan_Act

The Logan Act (1 Stat. 613, 18 U.S.C. § 953,) is a United States federal law that criminalizes the negotiation of a dispute between the United States and a foreign government by an unauthorized American citizen. It is intended to prevent unauthorized negotiations from undermining the U.S. government's position.[2]

§ 953. Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.

This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

In United States v. Curtiss-Wright Export Corp., 299 U.S. 304 (1936), Justice Sutherland, writing for the Court, observed,

[T]he President alone has the power to speak or listen as a representative of the nation. He makes treaties with the advice and consent of the Senate, but he alone negotiates. Into the field of negotiation, the Senate cannot intrude; and Congress itself is powerless to invade it. As Marshall said in his great argument of March 7, 1800, in the House of Representatives, 'The President is the sole organ of the nation in its external relations, and its sole representative with foreign nations.'

[–] LifeInMultipleChoice@lemmy.world 6 points 5 days ago (1 children)

Exactly, and this administration will have no problem going after a possible future political opponent for an act that is to be frank, easily proven if he isn't explicit in stating these are not the views of the U.S. and he can only hope they will be in the future

[–] tal@lemmy.today 3 points 5 days ago

Yeah. Frankly, if I were Newsom, I probably wouldn't do this. I suppose that it's possible that he's had serious legal analysis done taking the Logan Act into consideration, maybe even wants Trump to send the Justice Department after him, though I don't think that it's the tack I'd take. I think he'd do better to highlight unpopular failings in Trump's policy and then say "if you elect me President, I will do differently".

I'm also not at all sure that the climate is what I'd bang on, as Newsom. Like, I think that most climate voters are probably already voting Democratic. I think that he'd do better to highlight areas in which Trump's policies are causing a reduction in standard of living, where he's got a better chance of picking up swing voters.

That being said, he's a professional politician, and I'm not, and he probably has a team of people picking apart polls and with a better political science background than me, so...shrugs