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[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

None of them require a company to host a server. That was my entire point.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub -1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Explain how you'd use Delta Chat without a server, please? I may have misunderstood its need for a mailserver when I tried it.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 7 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I didn't say without a server, I said without a company-hosted server.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 0 points 1 week ago (2 children)

How do you even get a non-company-hosted server now? Public bodies don't host services for outsiders much any more and aren't really safe places for privacy in this type of case anyway.

[–] _cryptagion@anarchist.nexus 5 points 1 week ago

How do you even get a non-company-hosted server now?

they typed out on their computer capable of hosting anything they want

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You run your own or just choose from a variety of publicly-available ones.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Run your own? Great, but you'll almost certainly be getting a company to connect it up.

Publicly available from whom? Companies!

I may sometimes wish community-owned internet became the norm, but it didn't, so companies are involved almost everywhere.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I run several of these services with no company involved.

Publicly available from, as I said, individuals.

[–] mjr@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'm sceptical. Name me a server and I'll show you a company involved.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] mjr@infosec.pub 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

infosec.pub appears to be in Hetzner Online GmbH's Falkenstein hosting. They probably also own the hardware.

[–] Ulrich@feddit.org 1 points 1 week ago

I dunno man, the problem with most private servers is that they're just that. I don't know where they are or who is hosting them. I only know where mine is.