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[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 6 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Okay, I found one comment:

When I was in Ramadi in ‘06 as a Marine grunt, the SEAL platoon we worked closely with for the deployment all had the Punisher skull spray painted on their armor carriers.

There’s no question it’s far more prevalent on all the dumbass Grunt Style and Nine Line shirts these days, but the teams definitely adopted it for a while.

That, in your mind, is confirmation that he knew his own tattoo was an SS tattoo?

I do see the context. I see people talking about skulls and crossbones on a lot of different military decorations and how it's not necessarily an indication of something bad even though the Nazis also had skulls and crossbones, because it's just badass stuff that military people like to put on their gear for obvious reasons.

I mean, if he had scrolled up to where people were talking about 'totenkopf' up in a different place, and replied to that saying "oh btw I have one of those on my chest, I zoomed in to this picture and verified that the skull and crossbones on the right lapel of the guy on the left is the same as my tattoo," it would mean that he was aware that his own tattoo was a totenkopf which is an SS symbol. That still wouldn't mean he was a Nazi (or counterbalance the abundance of not-Nazi views he expressed during this big window we have to his private communication), but it would at least be backing for this somewhat different thing which you are now trying to claim.

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 4 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Don't try to apply critical thinking to these people, it's a waste of energy. Just downvote and move on.

[–] PhilipTheBucket@piefed.social 4 points 2 weeks ago (2 children)

Yeah. I mean I do feel like it's good if there is some vigorous pushback against the nonsense. I am honestly heartened and encouraged by how the Lemmy immune system against bad-faith bullshit seems to be getting stronger since last year. I was honestly really unhappy about how these narratives seemed to dominate when I first joined, it has been getting better.

Like a few days ago, there was a "Nazi tattoo" story, and all the first 1-2 dozen comments were applying some kind of skepticism to it or asking questions. The bullshit brigade arrived soon after that, and the comments section immediately devolved into something about like what we're seeing surrounding us now, but I definitely think political Lemmy at this point has a certain level of bullshit-meter activated.

(I feel like seeing the exact same tide of people swearing that there wasn't much difference between Trump and Kamala, and they were going to save Palestine by refusing to vote for Democrats, and then the bloody aftermath we're living through now, might have had a certain amount to do with it honestly. Of course, I am sure it will go through its next evolution at some point, I feel like just deliberately disrupting the comments with hostility and angry noise may start to take over more and more soon if bullshit keeps not working, but that's just one random guess.)

[–] JoeBigelow@lemmy.ca 6 points 2 weeks ago

Yea, I was there for the bullshit brigade, I got completely exhausted by it. I had planned to go to his town hall tonight but I ended up not feeling well don't want to get anyone else sick if I'm coming down with something. His last few have made it to YouTube so I'm hopeful this one will too. Hopefully he will do another close enough for me to attend.

[–] november@piefed.blahaj.zone 0 points 2 weeks ago

and they were going to save Palestine by refusing to vote for Democrats

This was not a statistically significant number of people.