this post was submitted on 22 Oct 2025
60 points (96.9% liked)

The Deprogram Podcast

1604 readers
73 users here now

"As revolutionaries, we don't have the right to say that we're tired of explaining. We must never stop explaining. We also know that when the people understand, they cannot but follow us. In any case, we, the people, have no enemies when it comes to peoples. Our only enemies are the imperialist regimes and organizations." Thomas Sankara, 1985

International Anti-Capitalist podcast run by an American, a Slav and an Arab.

Rules:

  1. No capitalist apologia / anti-communism.
  2. No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.
  3. Be respectful. This is a safe space where all comrades should feel welcome; this includes a warning against uncritical sectarianism.
  4. No porn or sexually explicit content (even if marked NSFW).
  5. No right-deviationists (patsocs, nazbols, Strasserists, Duginists, etc).

Resources:

founded 2 years ago
MODERATORS
airbusairnet@lemmygrad.ml
Ancient_Egg_57@lemmygrad.ml
60
How to avoid falling into accelerationism (lemmygrad.ml)
submitted 3 weeks ago by Comrade1917@lemmygrad.ml to c/thedeprogram@lemmygrad.ml
97 comments fedilink hide all child comments
 

The collapse of the American empire would benefit almost every other country. I am starting to feel that since I live in America I should want to accelerate the collapse (or make sure one happens if things start to go back to business as usual). Can someone tell me why this is a bad idea so that I don't make a mistake here.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 7 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

A civil war would be entirely one-sided bc one side has all the guns. That's not really a war, it's a massacre. And nobody's gonna risk their neck in the first place if it's a doomed cause.

There are two scenarios where there's a fighting chance, first, if the conflict is between the state and the right, and second, if the left becomes armed and organized.

The material conditions aren't set for the left to take advantage of chaos and collapse. The first order of business is to set up the correct material conditions.

[–] Darkcommie@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago* (last edited 3 weeks ago) (1 children)

Regardless a “collapse of the US” will be something like the collapse of British empire

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I think we need to examine what we're specifically talking about when we say, "collapse." The British Empire, the Weimar Republic, and the Qing dynasty all collapsed, but that collapse looked very different in each case.

[–] Darkcommie@lemmygrad.ml 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

They will exist as a shadow of their former selves no longer able to wage war or terrorise other countries with impunity

[–] Zuzak@hexbear.net 3 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

I'm not convinced declining conditions will lead to that result. As conditions have declined, the war machine has become more powerful than ever.

[–] Darkcommie@lemmygrad.ml 2 points 3 weeks ago

Declining conditions is too vague it can elapse anything from eggs got 0.5 cents more expensive to the economy just collapsed (which would weaken the war machine severely since the army is effectively a money sink with no returns) no in order for the US to collapse it has suffer several defeats at war and forcibly undergo an economic transformation that leaves is more isolated from the world