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'Not going to forget': Trump's gang gets ominous warning that immunity won't last forever
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Biden set a precedent by pardoning everyone at the end of his term. Trump will do the same and they’ll all be untouchable without a change in the law.
He can't pardon shit at the state level though.
You’re totally right but it still means IL has to be able to get him in front of a court.
I fucking hope they do. This man should never leave a jail cell.
Think through what you just comment though.
He's attacking states.
You don't think they'd be able to find out who these ICE agents are, or Stephen Miller, or Noem...run down the list.
You think those people would be able to avoid visiting the largest states/cities in the country for the rest of their lives?
They'll flee. Like the rats they are.
Sorry I was just talking about the assholes in charge like Miller and Noem. I think they have the resources to avoid prosecution.
No, they don't. They can only be pardoned for Federal Crimes. The dumbest of them have been cosplaying at the scene of the crimes they are committing. The only one who seems to understand the ramifications of what is happening is Miller, who stays in DC like a chump. He thinks he can escape being tied to any of these crimes.
That’s what I meant. Couldn’t they just stay out of states that would prosecute them? IL can’t go to TX to arrest them as far as I understand.
Ignore the pardons. The law doesn't matter any more.
Can you pardon someone if they haven't been convicted (or indicted) for a crime yet?
I believe they can pardon someone for past crimes that haven’t been charged or convicted, but not for future crimes.
That sounds stupid.
Is "double jeopardy" a thing or just a movie? And can that apply if they were pre-pardoned for a crime they weren't charged with yet?
Didn't watch the movie but depends on the law. If you break a law, say murder. It can be charged at both a state and federal level. So if you are pardoned by the federal government, you can still get life in prison or the death penalty by a state
Ah, forgot about getting charged at different levels.
Yeah, I don't believe every state allows it, but some do.
A good example is Ted Bundy, murdered 30+, maybe 100 people across at least 6 states. No federal charges were brought. He was arrested in Florida and faced charges in only 2 States I believe. He received so many convictions and the death penalty in Florida so I think the Feds and other states figured why bother, it will just cost more money and drag it out. (Think he has charges in Utah)
It is a thing. It means they can’t keep putting you on trial for the same crime over and over again.
Like if they have a trial and a jury finds you innocent, the same court/prosecutors can’t keep trying over and over you until they get a jury that does what they want.
Didn't Biden basically issue a preemptive blanket pardon for people (his son, maybe?) before he left office?
Yes, Carter did it.