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[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 22 points 2 days ago (13 children)

I wish there were a good alternative to master and slave that still had the connotation that the master did all the thinking and issued the orders, while the slave blindly obeyed. There are a fair number of protocols that work like that, and the alternatives I've seen don't capture that dynamic very well.

I've seen Parent and Child, but children definitely don't always do what the parent commands. I've seen Leader and Follower, but again, followers don't just blindly obey, they often let the leader take initiative, but they have some autonomy. Maybe Queen and Drone? I don't know enough about bees or ants to know if that's accurate though.

[–] stingpie@lemmy.world 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

I personally think the change from master & slave was kind of silly, as far as I'm aware, it was a bunch of people with no background in CS who thought the application of the term to something that has neither race nor agency was an insult to black people.

But I digress. It led to better guidelines in the Linux kernel, which I think are useful. You should tailor the terms you're using to the specifics of the task. If you have a master process that only has outward interfaces through the slave processes, you could use the term 'director' and 'actor.' if the master process is managing slave processes which compete over the same resources, you can use the terms 'arbiter' and 'mutex holder.' If the slaves do some independent processing the master does not need to know the details of, you can use the term 'controller' and 'peripheral.'

Basically, use a term that is the most descriptive in the context of your program.

Edit: also, I don't know why no one mentions this, but you can also use master/servant. Historically, there wasn't a difference between servant and slave, but in modern days there is, so it's technically different, technically the same.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago

Servant gets confusingly close to "server" which is already a badly overloaded term.

[–] psud@aussie.zone 19 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

Perhaps people offended by the usage of master/slave in IT need to understand it isn't talking about people

[–] 7isanoddnumber@sh.itjust.works 3 points 21 hours ago

I’ve now got an image in my head of a new satanic panic around daemons and wizards in IT.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

Not anymore, but it does come from that root.

[–] faythofdragons@slrpnk.net 6 points 1 day ago (1 children)

Technically, so does the word 'robot', but it's not from english, so that linguistic connection to slavery doesn't get noticed.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 1 points 1 day ago
[–] MonkeMischief@lemmy.today 4 points 1 day ago

Oh c'mon, now we're bringing root into this? /j :p

[–] state_electrician@discuss.tchncs.de 19 points 2 days ago (1 children)
[–] Goldholz@lemmy.blahaj.zone 10 points 2 days ago (1 children)

They someone needs to be punished, don't they?

[–] T156@lemmy.world 7 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] onlinepersona@programming.dev 1 points 3 hours ago

I need repos with these branch names. Main just sounds so lame. This would keep me on my toes

[–] explodicle@sh.itjust.works 5 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] Nasan@sopuli.xyz 3 points 1 day ago

Does Overmind only come into play when talking about cloud environments?

[–] thespcicifcocean@lemmy.world 8 points 1 day ago (1 children)

cult leader and cult follower? but that just seems too long

[–] Wizard_Pope@lemmy.world 5 points 1 day ago

Cultleader and cultist.

Lol haven't heard queen and drone... Might use that in the future!

[–] traceur301@lemmy.blahaj.zone 3 points 1 day ago (1 children)

There is, it's controller and peripheral

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 3 points 1 day ago

Peripheral means something different.

[–] bystander@lemmy.ca 5 points 2 days ago (1 children)

There are many articles around this topic and offerered alternatives. Though I don't think there's a consensus yet. Companies and individuals who made the change all did something slightly different.

[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Which was an advantage of the old way. At least it was consistent and when you came across that terminology you knew what it meant. It wasn't always the best way to describe the relationship between nodes, but at least it was consistent.

[–] Lumisal@lemmy.world 3 points 1 day ago

Prime and Deploy?

[–] dvlsg@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Primary and replica works in some contexts.

I don't think git is one of them, though.

[–] lessthanluigi@lemmy.sdf.org 2 points 2 days ago

I guess Hypnotist/Hypnotee would be one. Queen/Drone would work well, since there are drone kinks out there as well.

[–] overcast5348@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago (1 children)
[–] merc@sh.itjust.works 2 points 1 day ago

Definitely not a good match for many situations.