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[–] gerikson@awful.systems 8 points 2 days ago* (last edited 2 days ago) (6 children)

"Enjoy" this Rat fundamentally misunderstanding Banks:

https://www.boristhebrave.com/2025/09/14/the-culture-novels-as-a-dystopia/

JFC the comments on LW are even worse..

https://www.lesswrong.com/posts/uGZBBzuxf7CX33QeC/the-culture-novels-as-a-dystopia#comments

While the Culture is, on pretty much any axis, strictly superior to modern civilization, what personally appalls me is their sheer deathism.

If memory serves, the average human lives for around 500 years before opting for euthanasia, mostly citing some kind of ennui. What the hell? 500 years is nothing in the grand scheme of things.

"Why didn't Iain take my neuroses into account??"

Marvelous! This makes more sense of the culture than the books do.

"please sir may I pleasure you sexually"

[–] DonPiano@feddit.org 9 points 1 day ago (2 children)

But one of my hobbies is “oppositional reading” – deliberately interpreting novels counter to the obvious / intended reading.

Proceeds to just make new things up and misunderstand inconsequential aspects of things that were already there

[–] DonPiano@feddit.org 4 points 1 day ago (1 children)

I view all the books through a in-universe lens and thus will not consider that things are as they are because the narrative needs it

But then they can't imagine a large population having, largely, some traits in common due to cultural mechanisms rather than genetic engineering, and conclude that this fiction contains elements because their narrative of the world needs it. Amazing.

[–] gerikson@awful.systems 5 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

I should know the answer to this because I re-read all the Culture novels last year, but I do think there's some genetic engineering in the Culture. There's the famous sex glands, of course (but maybe the neural net handles part of that too?) and then there's the asocial dude on the remote asteroid in Excession, who I believe was seen as a genetic throwback from the general population.

But it's beside the point, Banks probably included genetic engineering to make sure no-one got horrible diseases and could live to 500 years, not to breed a separate race of elites. And for that he can never be forgiven by these idiots.

Edit both HN and LW comments mention John C Wright, who I have never read and vaguely remembered being a Sad Puppy. He has some dreck where everything is libertarian. Banks was a socialist, but he was foremost a novelist. Faced with the need to create a future society, he naturally designed one with no disease, no material wants, and lots and lots of sex. Who wouldn't? Conservative yanks, that's who.

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