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[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 29 points 16 hours ago* (last edited 16 hours ago) (41 children)

I fucking hope, but we already seen that at 1st Trump term and after Biden was elected entire EU again got back to licking US boot, including something as unbelivable as fully allowing nordstream sabotage.

[–] JumpyWombat@lemmy.ml -1 points 14 hours ago (40 children)

I don’t know what to believe about Nordstream, but I’m not even mad if that accelerates the transition out of fossil fuel.

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 17 points 14 hours ago (3 children)

It don't though, it just rises the price of energy because the gas still flows, even more than before, just from USA, Norway and yes, sill Russia, even more of it, but through middlemen. The sabotage also caused significant ecological catastrophe in the Baltic.

About the sabotage itself you have three versions available:

  1. Truth, that USA bombed it, possibly with participation of Norway (note above paragraph, curiously the very same countries that gained the most on it, qui bono, eh?)
  2. USA version, where Ukraine did it, despite lacking means
  3. Official German/EU version, that is no version, because both above versions means that Germany is either vassal (ver1) or war ally (ver2) of country which attacked Germany in a biggest peacetime sabotage in German history.
[–] woodenghost@hexbear.net 15 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

Didn't Biden basically announce the US was gonna do it before it happened?

[–] PolandIsAStateOfMind@lemmy.ml 10 points 12 hours ago

Yup, and immediately after Polish Foreign Minister Sikorski, closely related to atlanticist circles, thanked USA for that.

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