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We've been watching fascists pile into legislatures from Russia to the UK for decades. It's cute to make everything about Hitler, but this isn't an event unique to '33.
You can find historical parallels in the collapse of Yugoslavia and the Irish Troubles, Modi's rise in India and the Nixon/Reagan reaction to the US civil rights movement, the military coups in Guatemala and El Salvador, the dictatorships of South Korea and South Vietnam...
There's deeper historical roots to Trumpism than just "America made another oopsie cause we're dumb-dumbs"
Sure yeah.
The point here is that Hitler is cleraly the most famous crazy dictator. And now, almost 100 years later, it's looking like this Trump fellow is going to be remember quite a lot as well. I don't know about you, but I'm generally slightly afraid, and I'm not even American.
He's the Big Historical National Enemy. The one that we famously ground into humiliating defeat.
Trump didn't pattern his campaign after Hitler. He patterned it after Eisenhower, Nixon, and Reagan.
Oh his campaign was more like former American presidents, instead of one of a German Chancellor from the 1930's? Huh. This day is full of surprises.
His presidency was more like these prior administrations as well.
Trump is not a unique aberration in American politics. He's a continuation of a historical trend.
I don't know man, I fail to recall anyone else being as spectaculary unpredictable and insane, who's made objective truth a concept of the past.
Trump vs Truth
He's just completely fucking insane, genuinely. His speech is weird gibberish and he can't finish a single fucking thought.
You must have a good reason for having such a high criteria for what constitutes "an aberration".
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Madman_theory
Literally Nixonian foreign policy to behave unpredictable and insane.
Bruh.
Emphasis on "tried to make them think that... "
This man isn't pretending to be insane. Nixon, while a total crook, still had the ability to speak coherently.
An iPhone would be a more coherent president.
Fuck that fud, Trump isn't pretending to be insane. He is.
If you want an example of a politician pretending to be stupid as a genuine political tactic, look at Boris Johnson.
but hitler is provocative, it gets people going
That's why you can have a Democrat running around hand in hand with Liz Cheney while the corporate media cheers.
Hitler is easy to fixate on as a bad guy because he's an evil dead foreigner. Cheney is harder
Well, they quite literally could have prevented Hitler's rise to power, but Stalin decided it was more beneficial to the USSR for the Communists to support the Nazis against the Liberals. Why? Hmmmm... Guess we'll never know?
By all voting for Hindeburg, the guy who ordered the police to assassinate Rosa Luxembourg?
Hindenburg thought it was more beneficial for the Conservatives to support the Nazis.
Stalin was the Boogeyman Hindenburg used to justify a fascist government. Purging the Nazis in 1933 was as important to him as it was in 1919.
Twice, Hindenburg sided with fascists to demolish any kind of civil socialist reform in his country. Twice "evil Russians" got the blame for a domestic slaughter.
The communists literally sided with the fascists to also prevent any kind of socialist/social-democratic/"liberal" reform in the country.
The fascists were barely sided with themselves, given all the backstabbing. It took the conservative party to elevate the Nazis to the Chancellorship.
Yes, but the communists STILL sided with the fascists against the socialists/socdems.
The SDP purged its ranks of Communists to appease Hindenburg's State Police. You can't side with a party that's trying to rat you out to the cops and get you killed.
Which, again, brings us to the conservatives who held power by playing sides off each other until they misplayed their hands.
The path to fascism was paved back in 1919, when the original Communists were rounded up and executed by the conservatives.
Again, the Communists could have chosen NOT to side with the Fascists, but they did anyway.
Why do you keep deflecting blame from the Weimer president and head of the military police? I almost question whether you have a problem with the Fascists at all.
Because you are actually the one deflecting blame.
Why did the communists side with the fascists against the liberals?
Jesus. Shit like this is why liberals lose elections.
Why did the communists side with the fascists, in your opinion?