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If Jesus can turn water into wine, but wine is still mostly made of water, can Jesus apply his powers recursively and create more and more concentrated wine? (lemmy.ml)
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[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk -1 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago)

Why does it take God our entire lives to decide whether we are accepted? What about babies that die during birth or shortly after? How can they prove their faith?

Simple. Mercy. If we screwed up, then God would destroy us immediately. If God were to just stop evil happening on Earth, he'd have to kill everyone at the first moment that they sin. Either that or take away free will.

I would say that the resurrection was just part of the religious texts written by monks, not necessarily something that was 100% true.

Biblical scholars would disagree. The earliest text that we have that mentions the resurrection was written by AD 51.

1 Thessalonians 1:9-10

For the people of those regions report about us what kind of welcome we had among you, and how you turned to God from idols, to serve a living and true God, and to wait for his Son from heaven, whom he raised from the dead—Jesus, who rescues us from the wrath that is coming.

Again, it's worth mentioning that immediate writings were VERY RARE then. The entire Gospel of Mark would have cost the same as a house for a scribe to copy. Which is why we don't have many writings from that time.

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 points 1 day ago

Sorry, but Biblical scholars' proof of the resurrection is from the Bible? You see how that's not convincing right?

God created sin and hell, it didn't need to do that. After three decades as a Christian, the best answer I could get to the question "Why did God make the universe and us in it?" was "so we could praise it for eternity in heaven." So it could have just created us in heaven already. Instead it created a whole universe of randomness and ever-increasing chaos, stuck us in it and said, "You better love me and follow these very specific, often inane and arbitrary rules, or I'll send you to this other place I made where all you feel is pain for eternity." The god of the Bible is an egomaniacal sadist and it's not worthy of your praise.

[-] Flax_vert@feddit.uk 1 points 9 hours ago

That's like saying our proof for Caesar is Caesar's writing. Now if I said Caesar's writings were true because he said so, that would be circular reasoning. But no, they are backed up by history. In the same way, the Bible can prove Christianity, but circular reasoning is when I try and use the Bible to prove itself because it says it's true. Although proof can lie within such as criteria of embarrassment, but mainly it's to how it relates to what else we know about that time, which is how it lines up. Unlike, for example, the book of mormon which is completely verifiably fake as it talks about systems in an ancient america which we know didn't exist

[-] PapaStevesy@lemmy.world 1 points 4 hours ago

I'm taking that as tacit agreement that your god is an egomaniacal sadist but you don't mind cuz it's old, just fyi

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